diff --git a/ts/components/MemberListItem.tsx b/ts/components/MemberListItem.tsx
index 6e6f7bc1f..972fbe19f 100644
--- a/ts/components/MemberListItem.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/MemberListItem.tsx
@@ -102,8 +102,8 @@ const StyledCheckContainer = styled.div`
   align-items: center;
 `;
 
-type MemberListItemProps = {
-  pubkey: string;
+type MemberListItemProps<T extends string> = {
+  pubkey: T;
   isSelected: boolean;
   // this bool is used to make a zombie appear with less opacity than a normal member
   isZombie?: boolean;
@@ -112,8 +112,8 @@ type MemberListItemProps = {
   withBorder?: boolean;
   maxNameWidth?: string;
   isAdmin?: boolean; // if true,  we add a small crown on top of their avatar
-  onSelect?: (pubkey: string) => void;
-  onUnselect?: (pubkey: string) => void;
+  onSelect?: (pubkey: T) => void;
+  onUnselect?: (pubkey: T) => void;
   dataTestId?: React.SessionDataTestId;
   displayGroupStatus?: boolean;
   groupPk?: string;
@@ -125,7 +125,7 @@ const ResendContainer = ({
   displayGroupStatus,
   groupPk,
   pubkey,
-}: Pick<MemberListItemProps, 'displayGroupStatus' | 'pubkey' | 'groupPk'>) => {
+}: Pick<MemberListItemProps<string>, 'displayGroupStatus' | 'pubkey' | 'groupPk'>) => {
   const weAreAdmin = useWeAreAdmin(groupPk);
 
   if (
@@ -220,7 +220,7 @@ const GroupStatusContainer = ({
   displayGroupStatus,
   groupPk,
   pubkey,
-}: Pick<MemberListItemProps, 'displayGroupStatus' | 'pubkey' | 'groupPk'>) => {
+}: Pick<MemberListItemProps<string>, 'displayGroupStatus' | 'pubkey' | 'groupPk'>) => {
   if (
     displayGroupStatus &&
     groupPk &&
@@ -316,7 +316,7 @@ const PromoteButton = ({ groupPk, pubkey }: { pubkey: PubkeyType; groupPk: Group
   );
 };
 
-export const MemberListItem = ({
+export const MemberListItem = <T extends string>({
   isSelected,
   pubkey,
   dataTestId,
@@ -332,7 +332,7 @@ export const MemberListItem = ({
   withBorder,
   maxNameWidth,
   hideRadioButton,
-}: MemberListItemProps) => {
+}: MemberListItemProps<T>) => {
   const memberName = useNicknameOrProfileNameOrShortenedPubkey(pubkey);
   const ourName = isUsAnySogsFromCache(pubkey) ? localize('you').toString() : null;
 
diff --git a/ts/components/conversation/SessionConversation.tsx b/ts/components/conversation/SessionConversation.tsx
index 1b192f259..eecbcd9d2 100644
--- a/ts/components/conversation/SessionConversation.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/conversation/SessionConversation.tsx
@@ -62,6 +62,13 @@ import { InvitedToGroup, NoMessageInConversation } from './SubtleNotification';
 import { PubKey } from '../../session/types';
 import { isUsAnySogsFromCache } from '../../session/apis/open_group_api/sogsv3/knownBlindedkeys';
 import { localize } from '../../localization/localeTools';
+import {
+  useSelectedConversationKey,
+  useSelectedIsPrivate,
+  useSelectedIsPublic,
+  useSelectedWeAreAdmin,
+} from '../../state/selectors/selectedConversation';
+import { useAreLegacyGroupsDeprecatedYet } from '../../state/selectors/releasedFeatures';
 
 const DEFAULT_JPEG_QUALITY = 0.85;
 
@@ -253,7 +260,7 @@ export class SessionConversation extends Component<Props, State> {
             ourDisplayNameInProfile={ourDisplayNameInProfile}
             selectedConversation={selectedConversation}
           />
-          <OutdatedLegacyGroupBanner selectedConversation={selectedConversation} />
+          <OutdatedLegacyGroupBanner />
         </div>
         {isSelectedConvoInitialLoadingInProgress ? (
           <ConvoLoadingSpinner />
@@ -283,6 +290,7 @@ export class SessionConversation extends Component<Props, State> {
 
                 {isDraggingFile && <SessionFileDropzone />}
               </div>
+
               <ConversationMessageRequestButtons />
 
               <CompositionBox
@@ -655,20 +663,30 @@ function OutdatedClientBanner(props: {
   ) : null;
 }
 
-function OutdatedLegacyGroupBanner(props: {
-  selectedConversation: Pick<ReduxConversationType, 'id' | 'isPrivate' | 'isPublic'>;
-}) {
-  const { selectedConversation } = props;
+function OutdatedLegacyGroupBanner() {
   const dispatch = useDispatch();
 
+  const weAreAdmin = useSelectedWeAreAdmin();
+  const selectedConversationKey = useSelectedConversationKey();
+  const isPrivate = useSelectedIsPrivate();
+  const isPublic = useSelectedIsPublic();
+  const deprecatedLegacyGroups = useAreLegacyGroupsDeprecatedYet();
+
   const isLegacyGroup =
-    !selectedConversation.isPrivate &&
-    !selectedConversation.isPublic &&
-    selectedConversation.id.startsWith('05');
+    !isPrivate && !isPublic && selectedConversationKey && selectedConversationKey.startsWith('05');
+
+  // FIXME change the date here. Remove after QA
+  const text = deprecatedLegacyGroups
+    ? localize(
+        weAreAdmin ? 'groupLegacyBannerAdminDeprecated' : 'groupLegacyBannerMemberDeprecated'
+      ).toString()
+    : localize(weAreAdmin ? 'groupLegacyBannerAdmin' : 'groupLegacyBannerMember')
+        .withArgs({ date: '[Date]' })
+        .toString();
 
   return isLegacyGroup ? (
     <NoticeBanner
-      text={window.i18n('groupLegacyBanner', { date: '[Date]' })} // Remove after QA
+      text={text}
       onBannerClick={() => {
         showLinkVisitWarningDialog('https://getsession.org/groups', dispatch);
       }}
diff --git a/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeader.tsx b/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeader.tsx
index 7c1fd1ca0..ec90a9a61 100644
--- a/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeader.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeader.tsx
@@ -1,16 +1,30 @@
 import { useDispatch } from 'react-redux';
 
+import type { PubkeyType } from 'libsession_util_nodejs';
+import { useCallback } from 'react';
+import styled from 'styled-components';
 import { openRightPanel } from '../../../state/ducks/conversations';
 
-import { useIsOutgoingRequest } from '../../../hooks/useParamSelector';
+import {
+  use05GroupMembers,
+  useConversationUsername,
+  useIsOutgoingRequest,
+} from '../../../hooks/useParamSelector';
 import {
   useIsMessageSelectionMode,
   useSelectedConversationKey,
+  useSelectedIsLegacyGroup,
+  useSelectedWeAreAdmin,
 } from '../../../state/selectors/selectedConversation';
 import { Flex } from '../../basic/Flex';
 import { AvatarHeader, CallButton } from './ConversationHeaderItems';
 import { SelectionOverlay } from './ConversationHeaderSelectionOverlay';
 import { ConversationHeaderTitle } from './ConversationHeaderTitle';
+import { localize } from '../../../localization/localeTools';
+import { groupInfoActions } from '../../../state/ducks/metaGroups';
+import { updateConfirmModal } from '../../../state/ducks/modalDialog';
+import { setLeftOverlayMode } from '../../../state/ducks/section';
+import { SessionButtonColor, SessionButton } from '../../basic/SessionButton';
 
 export const ConversationHeaderWithDetails = () => {
   const isSelectionMode = useIsMessageSelectionMode();
@@ -42,6 +56,7 @@ export const ConversationHeaderWithDetails = () => {
             flexGrow={0}
             flexShrink={0}
           >
+            <RecreateGroupButton />
             <CallButton />
             <AvatarHeader
               onAvatarClick={() => {
@@ -57,3 +72,71 @@ export const ConversationHeaderWithDetails = () => {
     </div>
   );
 };
+
+const RecreateGroupContainer = styled.div`
+  display: flex;
+  justify-content: center;
+  align-self: center;
+  width: 100%;
+
+  .session-button {
+    padding-inline: var(--margins-3xl);
+  }
+`;
+
+function useShowRecreateModal() {
+  const dispatch = useDispatch();
+
+  return useCallback(
+    (name: string, members: Array<PubkeyType>) => {
+      dispatch(
+        updateConfirmModal({
+          title: localize('groupRecreate').toString(),
+          i18nMessage: { token: 'groupRecreateDescription' },
+          okText: localize('theContinue').toString(),
+          cancelText: localize('cancel').toString(),
+          okTheme: SessionButtonColor.Danger,
+          onClickOk: () => {
+            dispatch(setLeftOverlayMode('closed-group'));
+            dispatch(groupInfoActions.updateGroupCreationName({ name }));
+            dispatch(groupInfoActions.setSelectedGroupMembers({ membersToSet: members }));
+          },
+          onClickClose: () => {
+            dispatch(updateConfirmModal(null));
+          },
+        })
+      );
+    },
+    [dispatch]
+  );
+}
+
+function RecreateGroupButton() {
+  const isLegacyGroup = useSelectedIsLegacyGroup();
+  const selectedConvo = useSelectedConversationKey();
+
+  const name = useConversationUsername(selectedConvo);
+  const members = use05GroupMembers(selectedConvo);
+
+  const weAreAdmin = useSelectedWeAreAdmin();
+
+  const showRecreateGroupModal = useShowRecreateModal();
+
+  if (!isLegacyGroup || !weAreAdmin) {
+    return null;
+  }
+
+  return (
+    <RecreateGroupContainer>
+      <SessionButton
+        buttonColor={SessionButtonColor.Primary}
+        margin="var(--margins-sm)"
+        onClick={() => {
+          showRecreateGroupModal(name || 'Unknown group name', members);
+        }}
+      >
+        {localize('groupRecreate').toString()}
+      </SessionButton>
+    </RecreateGroupContainer>
+  );
+}
diff --git a/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeaderSubtitle.tsx b/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeaderSubtitle.tsx
index 742ce17d1..e8845e3e9 100644
--- a/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeaderSubtitle.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/conversation/header/ConversationHeaderSubtitle.tsx
@@ -17,7 +17,8 @@ export const StyledSubtitleContainer = styled.div`
   align-items: center;
   justify-content: center;
   margin: 0 auto;
-  min-width: 230px;
+  // with the "Recreate group" button (temporary) visible, at min-width we have less room available
+  min-width: 180px;
 
   div:first-child {
     span:last-child {
diff --git a/ts/components/leftpane/overlay/OverlayClosedGroup.tsx b/ts/components/leftpane/overlay/OverlayClosedGroup.tsx
index 7ee5e8bbf..b507166d2 100644
--- a/ts/components/leftpane/overlay/OverlayClosedGroup.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/leftpane/overlay/OverlayClosedGroup.tsx
@@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ import styled from 'styled-components';
 
 import { concat, isEmpty } from 'lodash';
 import useBoolean from 'react-use/lib/useBoolean';
+import useUpdate from 'react-use/lib/useUpdate';
+import type { PubkeyType } from 'libsession_util_nodejs';
 import { MemberListItem } from '../../MemberListItem';
 import { SessionButton } from '../../basic/SessionButton';
 
@@ -35,6 +37,8 @@ import { SessionInput } from '../../inputs';
 import { SessionSpinner } from '../../loading';
 import { StyledLeftPaneOverlay } from './OverlayMessage';
 import { hasClosedGroupV2QAButtons } from '../../../shared/env_vars';
+import type { StateType } from '../../../state/reducer';
+import { PubKey } from '../../../session/types';
 
 const StyledMemberListNoContacts = styled.div`
   text-align: center;
@@ -115,18 +119,26 @@ export const OverlayClosedGroupV2 = () => {
   const us = useOurPkStr();
   const privateContactsPubkeys = useContactsToInviteToGroup();
   const isCreatingGroup = useIsCreatingGroupFromUIPending();
-  const [groupName, setGroupName] = useState('');
+  const groupName = useSelector((state: StateType) => state.groups.creationGroupName) || '';
   const [inviteAsAdmin, setInviteAsAdmin] = useBoolean(false);
   const [groupNameError, setGroupNameError] = useState<string | undefined>();
-  const {
-    uniqueValues: selectedMemberIds,
-    addTo: addToSelected,
-    removeFrom: removeFromSelected,
-  } = useSet<string>([]);
   const isSearch = useIsSearching();
   const searchTerm = useSelector(getSearchTerm);
   const searchResultContactsOnly = useSelector(getSearchResultsContactOnly);
 
+  const forceRefresh = useUpdate();
+  const selectedMemberIds = useSelector(
+    (state: StateType) => state.groups.creationMembersSelected || []
+  );
+
+  function addMemberToSelection(member: PubkeyType) {
+    dispatch(groupInfoActions.addSelectedGroupMember({ memberToAdd: member }));
+  }
+
+  function removeMemberFromSelection(member: PubkeyType) {
+    dispatch(groupInfoActions.removeSelectedGroupMember({ memberToRemove: member }));
+  }
+
   function closeOverlay() {
     dispatch(clearSearch());
     dispatch(resetLeftOverlayMode());
@@ -197,7 +209,9 @@ export const OverlayClosedGroupV2 = () => {
           type="text"
           placeholder={window.i18n('groupNameEnter')}
           value={groupName}
-          onValueChanged={setGroupName}
+          onValueChanged={value => {
+            dispatch(groupInfoActions.updateGroupCreationName({ name: value }));
+          }}
           onEnterPressed={onEnterPressed}
           error={groupNameError}
           maxLength={LIBSESSION_CONSTANTS.BASE_GROUP_MAX_NAME_LENGTH}
@@ -221,8 +235,20 @@ export const OverlayClosedGroupV2 = () => {
                 }}
               />
             </span>
+            <span style={{ display: 'flex', alignItems: 'center' }}>
+              Deprecated Legacy groups?{'  '}
+              <SessionToggle
+                active={window.sessionFeatureFlags.forceLegacyGroupsDeprecated}
+                onClick={() => {
+                  window.sessionFeatureFlags.forceLegacyGroupsDeprecated =
+                    !window.sessionFeatureFlags.forceLegacyGroupsDeprecated;
+                  forceRefresh();
+                }}
+              />
+            </span>
           </>
         )}
+
         <SessionSpinner loading={isCreatingGroup} />
         <SpacerLG />
       </Flex>
@@ -238,18 +264,24 @@ export const OverlayClosedGroupV2 = () => {
             <Localizer token="searchMatchesNoneSpecific" args={{ query: searchTerm }} />
           </StyledNoResults>
         ) : (
-          contactsToRender.map((memberPubkey: string) => (
-            <MemberListItem
-              key={`member-list-${memberPubkey}`}
-              pubkey={memberPubkey}
-              isSelected={selectedMemberIds.includes(memberPubkey)}
-              onSelect={addToSelected}
-              onUnselect={removeFromSelected}
-              withBorder={false}
-              disabled={isCreatingGroup}
-              maxNameWidth="100%"
-            />
-          ))
+          contactsToRender.map((memberPubkey: string) => {
+            if (!PubKey.is05Pubkey(memberPubkey)) {
+              throw new Error('Invalid member rendered in member list');
+            }
+
+            return (
+              <MemberListItem
+                key={`member-list-${memberPubkey}`}
+                pubkey={memberPubkey}
+                isSelected={selectedMemberIds.includes(memberPubkey)}
+                onSelect={addMemberToSelection}
+                onUnselect={removeMemberFromSelection}
+                withBorder={false}
+                disabled={isCreatingGroup}
+                maxNameWidth="100%"
+              />
+            );
+          })
         )}
       </StyledGroupMemberListContainer>
 
diff --git a/ts/components/leftpane/overlay/choose-action/OverlayChooseAction.tsx b/ts/components/leftpane/overlay/choose-action/OverlayChooseAction.tsx
index 00984c8fe..6b6badd30 100644
--- a/ts/components/leftpane/overlay/choose-action/OverlayChooseAction.tsx
+++ b/ts/components/leftpane/overlay/choose-action/OverlayChooseAction.tsx
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@ import { SpacerSM } from '../../../basic/Text';
 import { StyledLeftPaneOverlay } from '../OverlayMessage';
 import { ActionRow, StyledActionRowContainer } from './ActionRow';
 import { ContactsListWithBreaks } from './ContactsListWithBreaks';
+import { groupInfoActions } from '../../../../state/ducks/metaGroups';
 
 export const OverlayChooseAction = () => {
   const dispatch = useDispatch();
@@ -21,6 +22,8 @@ export const OverlayChooseAction = () => {
 
   const openCreateGroup = useCallback(() => {
     dispatch(setLeftOverlayMode('closed-group'));
+    dispatch(groupInfoActions.updateGroupCreationName({ name: '' }));
+    dispatch(groupInfoActions.setSelectedGroupMembers({ membersToSet: [] }));
   }, [dispatch]);
 
   const openJoinCommunity = useCallback(() => {
diff --git a/ts/state/ducks/metaGroups.ts b/ts/state/ducks/metaGroups.ts
index 17767c083..135254ad3 100644
--- a/ts/state/ducks/metaGroups.ts
+++ b/ts/state/ducks/metaGroups.ts
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ import {
   UserGroupsGet,
   WithGroupPubkey,
 } from 'libsession_util_nodejs';
-import { concat, intersection, isEmpty, uniq } from 'lodash';
+import { concat, intersection, isEmpty, isNil, uniq } from 'lodash';
 import { from_hex } from 'libsodium-wrappers-sumo';
 import { ConfigDumpData } from '../../data/configDump/configDump';
 import { HexString } from '../../node/hexStrings';
@@ -57,11 +57,15 @@ import { updateGroupNameModal } from './modalDialog';
 export type GroupState = {
   infos: Record<GroupPubkeyType, GroupInfoGet>;
   members: Record<GroupPubkeyType, Array<GroupMemberGet>>;
-  creationFromUIPending: boolean;
   memberChangesFromUIPending: boolean;
   nameChangesFromUIPending: boolean;
   membersInviteSending: Record<GroupPubkeyType, Array<PubkeyType>>;
   membersPromoteSending: Record<GroupPubkeyType, Array<PubkeyType>>;
+
+  // those are group creation-related fields
+  creationFromUIPending: boolean;
+  creationMembersSelected: Array<PubkeyType>;
+  creationGroupName: string;
 };
 
 export const initialGroupState: GroupState = {
@@ -72,6 +76,8 @@ export const initialGroupState: GroupState = {
   nameChangesFromUIPending: false,
   membersInviteSending: {},
   membersPromoteSending: {},
+  creationMembersSelected: [],
+  creationGroupName: '',
 };
 
 type GroupDetailsUpdate = {
@@ -1256,6 +1262,44 @@ const metaGroupSlice = createSlice({
       delete state.membersInviteSending[payload.groupPk];
       delete state.membersPromoteSending[payload.groupPk];
     },
+    addSelectedGroupMember(
+      state: GroupState,
+      { payload }: PayloadAction<{ memberToAdd: PubkeyType }>
+    ) {
+      if (!state.creationMembersSelected?.length) {
+        state.creationMembersSelected = [payload.memberToAdd];
+        return state;
+      }
+      if (state.creationMembersSelected.includes(payload.memberToAdd)) {
+        return state;
+      }
+      const together = state.creationMembersSelected.concat(payload.memberToAdd);
+      state.creationMembersSelected = uniq(together);
+      return state;
+    },
+
+    setSelectedGroupMembers(
+      state: GroupState,
+      { payload }: PayloadAction<{ membersToSet: Array<PubkeyType> }>
+    ) {
+      state.creationMembersSelected = uniq(payload.membersToSet);
+      return state;
+    },
+    removeSelectedGroupMember(
+      state: GroupState,
+      { payload }: PayloadAction<{ memberToRemove: PubkeyType }>
+    ) {
+      const foundAt = state.creationMembersSelected?.indexOf(payload.memberToRemove);
+      if (state.creationMembersSelected && !isNil(foundAt) && foundAt >= 0) {
+        state.creationMembersSelected.splice(foundAt, 1);
+      }
+      return state;
+    },
+
+    updateGroupCreationName(state: GroupState, { payload }: PayloadAction<{ name: string }>) {
+      state.creationGroupName = payload.name;
+      return state;
+    },
   },
   extraReducers: builder => {
     builder.addCase(initNewGroupInWrapper.fulfilled, (state, action) => {
diff --git a/ts/state/ducks/releasedFeatures.tsx b/ts/state/ducks/releasedFeatures.tsx
index e66ec1bc0..346ec31cb 100644
--- a/ts/state/ducks/releasedFeatures.tsx
+++ b/ts/state/ducks/releasedFeatures.tsx
@@ -1,6 +1,8 @@
 import { createSlice, type PayloadAction } from '@reduxjs/toolkit';
+import { DURATION } from '../../session/constants';
 
-export const LEGACY_GROUP_DEPRECATED_TIMESTAMP_MS = Date.now() + 10 * 1000;
+// FIXME update this to the correct timestamp REMOVE AFTER QA
+export const LEGACY_GROUP_DEPRECATED_TIMESTAMP_MS = Date.now() + DURATION.WEEKS * 52;
 
 export interface ReleasedFeaturesState {
   legacyGroupDeprecationTimestampRefreshAtMs: number;
diff --git a/ts/state/selectors/releasedFeatures.ts b/ts/state/selectors/releasedFeatures.ts
index d21b3c7d7..0f6865d63 100644
--- a/ts/state/selectors/releasedFeatures.ts
+++ b/ts/state/selectors/releasedFeatures.ts
@@ -2,7 +2,6 @@ import { useSelector } from 'react-redux';
 import { NetworkTime } from '../../util/NetworkTime';
 import { LEGACY_GROUP_DEPRECATED_TIMESTAMP_MS } from '../ducks/releasedFeatures';
 
-
 export const areLegacyGroupsDeprecatedYet = (): boolean => {
   const theyAreDeprecated = NetworkTime.now() >= LEGACY_GROUP_DEPRECATED_TIMESTAMP_MS;
 
diff --git a/ts/state/selectors/selectedConversation.ts b/ts/state/selectors/selectedConversation.ts
index 8e794fc62..f8f0b1749 100644
--- a/ts/state/selectors/selectedConversation.ts
+++ b/ts/state/selectors/selectedConversation.ts
@@ -258,10 +258,9 @@ export function useSelectedIsPublic() {
  */
 export function useSelectedIsLegacyGroup() {
   const isGroupOrCommunity = useSelectedIsGroupOrCommunity();
-  const isGroupV2 = useSelectedIsGroupV2();
-  const isPublic = useSelectedIsPublic();
+  const selectedConvoKey = useSelectedConversationKey();
 
-  return isGroupOrCommunity && !isGroupV2 && !isPublic;
+  return isGroupOrCommunity && selectedConvoKey && PubKey.is05Pubkey(selectedConvoKey);
 }
 
 export function useSelectedIsPrivate() {
diff --git a/ts/util/releaseFeature.ts b/ts/util/releaseFeature.ts
index 7f24e48c9..76be91603 100644
--- a/ts/util/releaseFeature.ts
+++ b/ts/util/releaseFeature.ts
@@ -109,7 +109,6 @@ function isDisappearMessageV2FeatureReleasedCached(): boolean {
   return !!isDisappearingMessageFeatureReleased;
 }
 
-
 export const ReleasedFeatures = {
   checkIsUserConfigFeatureReleased,
   checkIsDisappearMessageV2FeatureReleased,